Unnecessary Rankings! Jane Austen

It’s actually surprising that it’s taken me this long to rank Jane Austen in my Unnecessary Rankings series. Because surely we’ve all had this conversation with fellow Austenites at some point?

It’s probably also the one that gets most controversial. But here we go…

8. Mansfield Park
It’s the novel that is most like her contemporaries’ novels, and it is comfortably the most boring. It’s too long and baggy, Fanny and Edmund scarcely scintillate, and it’s telling that nobody has managed to make a convincing adaptation for screen.

7. Collected Letters
Who knows what gems Cassandra burned, but beyond the few much-quoted bits from these letters, it’s all rather unrevealing and unexciting. And even the most quoted bits, like ‘two inches of ivory’, are clearly ironic and have often been used out of context.

6. Juvenilia / unfinished works
I’ve grouped all these together because I can’t really remember what I thought of Lady Susan vs The Watsons vs Sanditon vs Love and Freindship etc. Her early work shows an astonishing confidence at satire, and the unfinished works are fun without being fulfilling.

5. Persuasion
A lot of people put Persuasion at the top of their list, and there’s certainly a touching romance to the spinster-on-the-shelf Anne (who is all of 27) and the love she thought she’d lost forever. The reason it’s not very high on my list is that it’s her least funny book, in my opinion, and I read Austen at least as much for the humour as the character development.

4. Northanger Abbey
Austen’s lightest novel leans heavily on subverting stereotypes of the Gothic genre, but there’s a lot to enjoy even if we aren’t buried deep in the works of Ann Radcliffe. It’s silly, fresh, and surprisingly mentions baseball.

3. Emma
People who dislike Emma usually give the reason that she’s an annoying snob. Like, yes, that’s the point? And we love her nonetheless? The only one of Austen’s heroines who is independently wealthy, Emma is a fascinating study in being unobservant and delusional while also thinking she knows everyone deeply.

2. Sense and Sensibility
There’s a simple reason that I love Sense and Sensibility so much: it’s hilarious. Yes, I am moved by the story of Elinor and Marianne – but I come back to the book for Mr and Mrs Palmer.

1. Pride and Prejudice
There’s a reason it’s the most adapted one, and perhaps the story that comes to mind first when the average person thinks of Jane Austen. Elizabeth Bennet is the perfect heroine, and her journey to self-knowledge is exquisite – and that’s before we get to the enormous number of incredible supporting characters. Austen doesn’t always get credit for the detail and brilliance of her plotting, and I think it’s best displayed in Pride and Prejudice.

All Roads Lead To Austen by Amy Elizabeth Smart

I can’t remember where I first heard about All Roads Lead To Austen (2012) by Amy Elizabeth Smart – but it certainly ended up on my wishlist at some point, and my parents kindly gave it to me for Christmas a couple of years ago. What a treat it is. In the apparently unending world of books about Jane Austen, I will always have time for unusual memoirs relating to her books – and this one, in which Smith tours various Latin American countries teaching Austen’s novels, is exactly the sort of hook that reels me in.

What is it about Jane Austen that makes us talk about the characters as if they’re real people? People we recognise in our own lives, two centuries after Austen created them? When my first development leave from the university rolled around, I decided it was time for me to try my own Austen project, just like my students do. Something creative, something fun. So I got to wondering: the special connection that people feel with Austen’s world, this Austen magic – would it happen with people in another country, reading Austen in translation?

And that is exactly the project that Smith undertakes. She is an academic at an American university, so she is approaching the task with a great deal of knowledge – not simply the amateur’s enthusiasm. But along the way she will be mixing the two with the people she meets: some are people studying from a literary background, while others are juggling reading the book with three jobs or full-time childcare. Smith’s book assumes we are already familiar with the plots of all of Austen’s novels – but are ready to question our assumptions about them, and how believable we think the characters and plots could possibly be today.

In the course of Smith’s travels, she goes to Guatemala, Mexico, Ecuador, Chile, Paraguay, and Argentina. Since she is travelling on her own, this does mean we have to get used to a new cast of characters ever time she lands in a new country. She does a very good job at making us feel familiar with the most important people in each location, and I didn’t find that I was confusing the different groups of readers.

While Smith is an academic, this is a book for anyone – and I appreciated that as much time was given to logistics and personal hopes as we get in the actual discussions and reflections on Austen’s novels. That might mean panicking that nobody is going to join the group, or being frustrated that someone dominant has decided they’re going to read a different book altogether, or how to manage her own expectations when the local cultural norm is to accept every invitation even if you have no intention of going. Smith manages to maintain a clear respect for each different culture she visits, never suggesting the American way is superior, while also conveying how comfortable she does or doesn’t feel in each place.

Sometimes she is literally uncomfortable – along the way, Smith has a number of health incidents that are also documented (including her unfortunate experiences with some of the healthcare professionals along the way – and much better experiences with others).

But fear not – we are not short-changed when it comes to Austen chat. Many of the groups of readers want to talk about the characters (and some have only seen an adaptation), whereas other groups are more interested in literary technique. Smith records all the conversations, so is able to reproduce them. Here’s a little bit from Ecuador:

“I like him just the way he is,” Meli insisted, unintentionally echoing Darcy’s literary descendant Mark Darcy of Bridget Jones fame. “I like him from the first moment.”

“But not that Bingley, ugh!” Leti grimaced at the thought of Jane’s gentle suitor.

“He’s a big nothing,” Fernanda agreed.

Wow! I’d never heard Bingley so maligned. I was reminded of the harshness of the women’s judgements in Guatemala on men perceived to be weak.

“The one that’s really the worst,” offered Meli, “is that cousin, Collins.”

Leti rolled her eyes and groaned. “All of his pontificating, his tackiness! Horrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiible!

A colourful list of insults followed. Collins is un tarado (a cretin), un blando (a coward), un fofo (a wimp) – in short, ridículo.

It’s all great fun to read. And in each country, Smith asks whether they think the events of the novels could happen today – and gets an intriguing range of answers. She also asks for any early women writers in each country, often getting told household names who aren’t well-known outside of the country in question. I certainly came away with a wide range of possible books to try.

Smith is such a likeable narrator and has clear affection and respect for everyone she meets. There is even a little romance along the way for Smith, which lends the book something unexpected and rather delightful to follow. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with this Janeite – an unusual and fun idea for a book carried out beautifully. Jane would have enjoyed it, and you can’t give a greater compliment than that.

Tea or Books? #95: Woolf vs Austen and The Foolish Gentlewoman vs The Half-Crown House

Jane Austen, Virginia Woolf, Margery Sharp, Helen Ashton – welcome to episode 95.

In the first half, we take a detour from our usual practice and pit two authors against each other. And it’s two very big hitters – Jane Austen and Virginia Woolf, suggested by my friend Paul.

In the second half, we look at two post-war novels about houses – The Foolish Gentlewoman by Margery Sharp and The Half-Crown House by Helen Ashton.

Do get in touch with us if you have any suggestions or questions – teaorbooks[at]gmail.com. You can find us at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, your podcast app of choice etc. You can also support the podcast at Patreon, from as little as a dollar a month.

 

The books and authors we mention in this episode are everything by Jane Austen and Virginia Woolf [!] and:

There is a Fortress by Winifred Peck
House-Bound by Winifred Peck
Bewildering Cares by Winifred Peck
Arrest the Bishop by Winifred Peck
Summer by Ali Smith
Winter by Ali Smith
The Knox Brothers by Penelope Fitzgerald
Charlotte Mew by Penelope Fitzgerald
Gilead by Marilynne Robinson
Winnie the Pooh by A.A. Milne
Frenchman’s Creek by Daphne du Maurier
Crossing to Safety by Wallace Stegner
Mapp and Lucia by E.F. Benson
Bricks and Mortar by Helen Ashton
The Village by Marghanita Laski
Tadpole Hall by Helen Ashton
Joanna at Littlefold 
by Helen Ashton
Yeoman’s Hospital by Helen Ashton
The Captain Comes Home by Helen Ashton
Angela Thirkell
Cluny Brown by Margery Sharp
Crampton Hodnet by Barbara Pym
A Glass of Blessings by Barbara Pym
The Adventures of Miss Barbara Pym by Paula Byrne

Tea or Books? #78: 19th Century vs 20th Century and Two Unfinished Jane Austen Novels

Sanditon, The Watsons, and a whistle-stop tour of the centuries – we’re back!


 
In the first half of this episode, we take a suggestion from Elizabeth – do we prefer the nineteenth or twentieth century for literature? That’s an awful lot to cover, so we just look at British literature… and not very much of that tbh. But it’s fun!

In the second half, we look at Sanditon and The Watsons – two unfinished novels by Jane Austen – and pick which one is our favourite, and which we wish had been finished.

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The books and authors we mention in this episode are:

Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead by Olga Tokarczuk
William Blake
Flights by Olga Tokarczuk
Dorothy L Sayers
Georges Simenon
The Secret of High Eldersham by Miles Burton
Diaries of Cecil Beaton
Molly Fox’s Birthday by Deirdre Madden
The Wells of St Mary’s by R.C. Sherriff
Enduring Love by Ian McEwan
Atonement by Ian McEwan
Jane Austen
Elizabeth Gaskell
George Eliot
Wilkie Collins
Charles Dickens
Mrs Henry Wood
Mary Elizabeth Braddon
Dracula by Bram Stoker
Arthur Conan Doyle
Amy Levy
Bronte sisters
Mary Shelley
Virginia Woolf
The Bonfire of the Vanities by Tom Wolfe
Margaret Atwood
Margaret Drabble
Margaret Forster
Nina Bawden
Penelope Mortimer
Anthony Trollope
Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
The Monk by Matthew Lewes
The Italian by Ann Radcliffe
The Castle of Otranto by Horace Walpole
Cecilia by Fanny Burney
Evelina by Fanny Burney
Pamela by Samuel Richardson
Tristram Shandy by Laurence Sterne
Tom Jones by Henry Fielding
Northanger Abbey by Jane Austen
Self-Control by Mary Brunton
Discipline by Mary Brunton
Emma by Jane Austen
Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
The Last September by Elizabeth Bowen
Loving by Henry Green
Whose Body? by Dorothy L Sayers
4.50 From Paddington by Agatha Christie